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Article traitant des auditions pour le poste de batteur en 1980 en remplacement de Peter Criss

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Eric aurait eu 65 ans aujourd'hui !

Eric ! tu manques a tous !

Bon Anniversaire à Eric qui manque énormément

KISS - Unreleased ERIC CARR Audio Interview From 1989 Posted - "To Actually Play Madison Square Garden, Now I Know I'm In A Big Famous Band"

March 13, 2016, a day ago



KISS - Unreleased ERIC CARR Audio Interview From 1989 Posted - "To Actually Play Madison Square Garden, Now I Know I'm In A Big Famous Band"

Brian Rademacher at RockEyez has posted an interview he conducted with late KISS drummer Eric Carr on May 9th, 1989. Carr discusses how he ended up joining KISS, touring, and playing Madison Square Garden.

Eric Carr, born Paul Charles Caravello, was a member of KISS from 1980 to 1991. He replaced original KISS drummer Peter Criss and remained a member of the band until his death from heart cancer on November 24th, 1991, at the age of 41.

KISS' GENE SIMMONS: Why We Fired ERIC CARR On His Deathbed

During a recent question-and-answer session with fans attending his Tongue Tour in Australia, KISS bassist/vocalist Gene Simmons explained the reasons behind the group's decision to fire drummer Eric Carr a short time after he was diagnosed with cancer in 1991.

"This is still a very emotional subject," Simmons said. "At first, when Eric was coughing up blood, he was referred to the KISS medics, and at first it did not seem to be serious. It wasn't until Eric had open-heart surgery that the tumors were found. Myself and Paul were the only people with Eric at the time, and we allowed Eric all the time in the world to recover and rejoin the band. Unfortunately, the cancer spread and we then knew he only had a matter of months to live. We sat down with Eric and told him that the band still had to move forward, which is when we then recruited Eric Singer and told Eric Carr he had been replaced. Eric was definitely upset with the decision, and when Eric was then released from hospital and we were doing the 'God Gave Rock and Roll to You' video, Eric asked if he could be a part of the video which we obliged to. Eric struggled to meet the video demands and did end up completing it, and unfortunately, a few months later Eric died."

date de cet article ..November 18, 2002 .

what if KISS ......never had to replace ERIC CARR November 18, 2002
The second official What If KISS... tackles a touchy subject surrounding the fate of the band's second drummer, the beloved Eric Carr. As we all know, Eric was diagnosed with cancer a few months after the Hot In The Shade tour ended and his final works with the band were documented on the recording of "God Gave Rock N 'Roll To You II" and the accompanying music video. The song and video hit the airwaves towards the end of summer 1991 and just a few months later, Carr would succumb to his illness in November 24, 1991.

Even before news of The Fox's illness was reported, Carr was very popular with the fanbase, mainly due to his accessibility with the faithful before and after KISS concerts. Despite being loved by the fans and possessing top-notch skills behind the drum kit, Carr's place in the band was already in question leading up to the Hot In The Shade tour.

Paul Stanley alleges in his recent book that Carr could be high-maintenance, insecure and moody. He also stated that he and the drummer did not see eye to eye towards the end of the 1980s and that Carr would not even speak to him for long periods of time. Carr was also upset over his place in the band during the recording of HITS. He had been in KISS for nearly a decade, but only had one lead vocal credit to his name, a re-recording of Peter Criss' smash hit, "Beth".

Although he would finally get his own song and vocal on a KISS album for HITS, a few of the tracks on the album employed either a drum machine or regular KISS Phantom Drummer, Kevin Valentine. This situation would frustrate Carr and the decision to cut his drum solo for the supporting tour also struck a nerve with the Brooklyn native. Hard Rock champion Eddie Trunk suggests that Carr was ready to leave the group, asking him if he knew of any big groups looking for a drummer, even mentioning KISS' rival at the time, Whitesnake.

So, my question is...if Eric Carr hadn't passed away, would he have left KISS or would KISS have replaced him anyway? Would Revenge sound any different? Eric Carr was a much flashier player than Eric Singer, so it's possible that some of the songs may have had a different feel. Maybe "Unholy" would end up more like something on Creatures Of The Night?

Also, another factor to consider is the Bob Ezrin angle. Although their relationship wasn't nearly as strained as the one between he and Frehley, Ezrin did bring in a session guy for one track on Music From 'The Elder'. If Carr was indeed as sensitive as Stanley suggests in his memoir, that couldn't have sat well with him and he may have resented Ezrin for it.

What about the reunion? During the HITS tour, Ace Frehley was asked to take an opening slot and declined. Many rumors swirled in those days that a reunion was going to happen and that it would be Ace coming back to the band, with Gene, Paul and Eric donning their trademark makeup for the first time in 7 years. Peter Criss will always be the original drummer and founding member of KISS, but Carr was always a better technical player and his standing in the fanbase may have made for a very uncomfortable decision in 1996.

I'll say (again, based on Stanley's comments) that there is probably no way Carr would have done what Eric Singer did in 1995, which was suggest that Peter Criss get up on stage and play with KISS. So, maybe if Eric lives and stays in KISS, the reunion goes down a different way or would the money only be there for the original group to get back together?

Lots of angles to look at here, interested to hear what you all think...

Eric aurait eu 68 ans aujourd’hui Repose en paix petit renard tu nous manque

Happy late birthday Eric, 68 ans... il nous aurait fait rêver
C'est dingue quand même ce qu'il lui est arrivé... presque 3 décennies

Ace Stanley a écrit:

Happy late birthday Eric, 68 ans... il nous aurait fait rêver
C'est dingue quand même ce qu'il lui est arrivé... presque 3 décennies

Et il n'est pas le seul Dans Kiss il y aussi Bill Aucoin qui est mort d'un cancer de la prostate. Peter a eu un cancer du sein qu'il a pu guérir. Et des millions de personnes et d'animaux a travers le monde. Espérons que l'ont trouvera un traitement qui guérira toutes les formes de cette s......e de cancer.

Magkiss a écrit:

Ace Stanley a écrit:

Happy late birthday Eric, 68 ans... il nous aurait fait rêver
C'est dingue quand même ce qu'il lui est arrivé... presque 3 décennies

Et il n'est pas le seul  Dans Kiss il y aussi Bill Aucoin qui est mort d'un cancer de la prostate. Peter a eu un cancer du sein qu'il a pu guérir.  Et des millions de personnes et d'animaux a travers le monde. Espérons que l'ont trouvera un traitement qui guérira toutes les formes de cette s......e de cancer.

Oui j'avais lu tout ce qui était arrivé à Bill Aucoin et à Peter le cancer j'y ai été confronté à mon plus grand désarrois (mon grand père l'avait eu au poumon il y a 2 ans et demi, il est décédé 3 mois après) et la douleur est trop intense quand on perd une personne de cette affreuse, pénible, voir foutue maladie...
Malheureusement malgré toutes chimiothérapies (qui ne guérit pas tout le temps) il y a très peu de traitements et c'est l'une des pires qui existe...

(une chose peu plus joyeuse, j'adore ton image de profil )

Premier concert d'eric carr avec Kiss (que l'audio)

27 ans aujourd'hui

Éric Carr

Bill Aucoin confirme qu'Eric l'a appelé pour lui dire que Gene et Paul l'avait viré du groupe au moment de sa maladie , avant qu'il décède .



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a lire et a médité !

Ace en parle a la 6 eme minute

Plus d'informations sur la mort d'Eric Carr

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.music.artists.kiss/3jYIMFgLLR8

C'est fou cette histoire... Licencier comme ça, sans état d'âmes

Je savais pas que dès 93, ils parlaient déjà de la réunion

Voici de nombreuses sources fiables et d'après l'apparence des choses, Eric n'était pas
même licencié et son assurance médicale n'a pas été annulée. Même Gene et
Paul avançait de l'argent à Eric Carr pour l'aider à payer ses frais médicaux.
Comme mentionné dans notre article précédent, Eric Carr a-t-il été renvoyé?, Nous avons examiné
un récent article en ligne qui a cherché à savoir si Eric avait été licencié de KISS
ou pas en 1991 avant sa mort. En plus de cela, nous jetons un œil
à quelques publications récentes de KISS qui regardent ces mois il y a 11 ans
à l'approche du décès d'Eric.
Soit dit en passant, nous vous recommandons de consulter les publications répertoriées ci-dessous
ainsi que.

Le diamant noir de Dale Sherman:
Dans l’une de ses dernières interviews manuscrites publiées dans un
fanzine, Eric a demandé à plusieurs reprises: "Qui a dit que je suis trop malade pour jouer? !!" même
bien que l'intervieweur n'ait jamais fait référence à cette question. Quand
lui a finalement demandé s'il avait l'intention de quitter KISS, Eric a simplement répondu: "Si
il est prévu que je quitte KISS, ils NE SONT PAS à moi !!!! ".
Eric attendit que l'autre chaussure tombe.
En août [1991], des rumeurs avaient commencé à se répandre dans les cercles de fans et
magazines de rock qu'Eric avait été officiellement remplacé par [Eric] Singer.
Des rumeurs de nature plus volcanique ont également commencé à se propager de la bande
les membres voulant Eric quitter en raison de sa maladie et la montée de leur
les taux d'assurance collective, ou que le coût de son traitement était trop élevé
profondément dans les poches de la société KISS elle-même. Que ces rumeurs
étaient vraies ou non est sans conséquence; en fait, Gene et Paul étaient
avancer des redevances privées à Eric à partir d'enregistrements précédents pour aider
payer sa chimiothérapie; juste le carburant d'entre eux était suffisant pour mettre
stress supplémentaire sur Eric alors qu'il progressait dans la récupération.
Sherman, D. (1997), Black Diamond: The Unauthorized Biography of KISS,
Guide du collectionneur Publishing Inc., page 223.

Citations et extraits de KISS Alive Forever de Curt Gooch et Jeff Suhs:
Gary Corbett (claviériste hors scène de KISS à la fin des années 80 et
début des années 1990) parle de la fête «sans cancer» organisée pour Eric
il était à Los Angeles pour le tournage de God Gave Rock And Roll To You II:

"La nuit avant la fête", explique Gary Corbett, "Gene et Paul
appelé Bruce et lui a dit qu'il ne pouvait pas aller à la fête parce qu'ils
n'allaient pas. Le lendemain matin, ils allaient avoir une réunion
pour virer Eric parce qu'ils ne voulaient pas faire face à la chance qu'il
serait à nouveau malade. Je leur ai dit qu'ils pourraient avoir un remplaçant sur
la route qui pourrait intervenir à tout moment, alors comment pourraient-ils ne pas
donner à Eric la courtoisie? S'il tombe malade, alors il y a quelqu'un pour marcher
mais le lui retirer parce qu'il pourrait tomber malade est
ridicule."

Gary Corbett poursuit en énonçant les pensées d'Eric après son retour à New
York continuera de récupérer:

"Eric m'a appelé", déclare Gary Corbett, "et il était vraiment paranoïaque
demandant: "Vont-ils me virer?" Je lui ai dit de récupérer, de se détendre et
s'améliore. "L'incertitude d'Eric a persisté, poursuit Corbett," Il
et Carrie est sorti pour passer la journée à Great Adventure et en quelque sorte il
a appris qu’ils allaient le licencier. Il m'a appelé: «Ils sont
me virer! Ils me virent! Faire partie de ce groupe était sa vie; Cela signifiait
tout pour lui. La seule chose dont il se souciait était d'être le batteur
dans KISS. "

Gooch et Suhs (auteurs) avancent pour clarifier le statut d'Eric pendant la
été 1991:

Bien que Gene et Paul se soient engagés à aller de l'avant, ce qui au moins
implicitement signifiait que Carr devait être remplacé, à leur crédit, ils
hésité quand il s'agissait de licencier Eric, et il n'a jamais été officiellement
mis à la porte. Tout au long de la seconde moitié de l'été [1991], le manque de
la communication entre KISS et Eric a laissé son statut flou. C'est
évident que son statut n'était pas clairement exprimé ou même compris
par l'une ou l'autre des parties.

Gary Corbett parle des événements qui ont suivi le premier cerveau d'Eric
hémorragie en septembre 1991:

"La famille ne permettait pas à KISS de savoir comment allait Eric, et ils
[KISS] n'était pas autorisé à l'hôpital. Ils n'avaient toujours pas officiellement
l'a licencié, car sans Eric signer certains documents, il ne pouvait pas
être officiellement lâché du groupe. Voilà pourquoi la famille d'Eric a donné une telle
des ordres stricts de ne pas discuter de son état, car ils pensaient que le
bande trouverait un précédent juridique qui leur permettrait de procéder
sans la signature d'Eric s'il était physiquement incapable de le signer, ce qui
il était. Sans ces documents, Eric était toujours couvert par sa santé
avantages sociaux et recevait toujours son salaire. "

Le manager de KISS, Larry Mazer:
"Il n'y avait aucun moyen sensible pour y faire face. Il n'y avait aucun moyen
n'importe qui allait sortir de cette belle apparence. On ne pouvait nier
le fait qu'Eric [Carr] n'allait pas pouvoir tourner. C'est juste
n'allait pas arriver. Nous ne savions pas qu'il allait mourir, mais nous l'avons fait
savoir qu'il n'était pas prêt à faire une tournée. Il a fallu prendre une décision
aller de l'avant, et il n'y avait pas de bon moyen d'y faire face. "
Gooch, C. & Suhs, J. (2002), KISS Alive Forever: The Complete Touring
Histoire, Billboard Books, pages 196 et 197.

Entretien de Carrie Stevens avec Gene Simmons Tongue:
Pendant des années, Stevens était en colère contre KISS, pour ce qu'elle a interprété comme
abandon de Carr pendant sa maladie. "J'ai dû en quelque sorte blâmer quelqu'un,
et il était facile de les blâmer, car ils étaient toujours au sommet "
dit maintenant. "Et je n'avais plus Eric. Je les détestais tellement
que je priais pour eux. Je prierais pour eux de trouver l'amour
leurs vies.
"Ça a marché. Ça a fait fondre tous mes mauvais sentiments envers eux. Et puis
au fil des ans, je les ai croisés ici et là, et dans mon propre
voyage après de nombreuses années, j'ai pu regarder en arrière et dire: «Carrie,
il était très malade. Il était en train de mourir. Il n'était pas en forme pour jouer de la batterie
plus. ""
Appleford, S. (2002), Rock Starlet, Gene Simmons Tongue, automne 2002, Page
60.


Alors voilà. Plus de récits sur ces mois de 1991 où Eric
Carr était très malade.
Il est clair qu'il existe de nombreux points de vue et opinions sur ce qui s'est passé
avant son décès en ce qui concerne son statut au sein de KISS, et
il y a très probablement un tas d'informations concernant la question
que les fans ne sont tout simplement pas au courant.

13.07.2020 13:36:16



July 12, 2020, a day ago

By Greg Prato


During the early ‘80s, two rock drummers did a masterful job of replicating the enormity of John Bonham’s drum sound—Bobby Chouinard on Billy Squier’s Don’t Say No, and most definitely, Eric Carr on KISS’ Creatures Of The Night.

Coming off of a string of albums that saw the then-still masked quartet moving further and further away from their earlier hard n’ heavy sound, KISS (which at that stage was comprised of Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons, Ace Frehley, and Eric Carr…although Frehley was preparing to exit) wisely decided to get back to basics on Creatures Of The Night—their tenth studio effort.

The second KISS album that Carr appeared on (after replacing original drummer Peter Criss), Creatures was released on October 10, 1982. And while it has rightfully gone on to be mentioned in the same breath as Alive!, Destroyer, and Rock And Roll Over as one of KISS’ all-time best—and certainly most focused and inspired—offerings, the album underperformed chart and sales-wise, resulting in the band ditching the make-up (and unfortunately, also Carr’s thunderous drum sound) a year later.

July 12, 2020 would have been Eric’s 70th birthday (he sadly passed away on November 24, 1991, after a battle with cancer), and to mark this occasion, below is an excerpt from an earlier book of mine, The Eric Carr Story (available for purchase as a paperback version or a Kindle download here) which focuses on the recording of Creatures, how Carr obtained his famous drum sound, and what several renowned metal drummers thought of the album and drumming.

Michael James Jackson (Creatures Of The Night and Lick It Up producer):  “We ran two studios at the same time, in the same building, and we’d go back and forth between the two of them. We put Eric in a separate room by himself. There was a big focus on trying to get as close as possible ... not to the exact sound of John Bonham, but we tried to get some of the character of Bonham’s sound. You can’t ever duplicate what anybody else has done, because it’s not just the echo, it’s not just the environment, it’s not the ambience—it’s also the sound of the drums, the way they’re hit. There’s so many factors involved, [like] the humidity in the room. All those factors are involved in what the overall ambience is and sound is. But there was a real determination to try and create a sound that really had a character to it that was along those same lines. So Eric was put in a separate room—not even a booth [but] a separate room—and was close-mic’d and distant-mic’d. We had spent a lot of time—we might have spent a couple days—trying to really work and find the sound, specifically around the drums. Because on that record, the drums have a character to them. That is what gives that record an identity. Eric was way into it, because it was his ‘glory moment.’ It was when all the focus was on Eric. He was willing to do whatever it took to achieve that particular thing, and also, was very focused on his playing. I always appreciated that he really cared about exactly what he did and how he was going to sound. And then later, that record was mixed by Bob Clearmountain. It was made very clear to Bob that the particular overall character of the drum sound was a key element in the record. So when he mixed it, he added some of the echo that the Power Station became very famous for. There was an elevator shaft there that he had put a microphone down. He could send the signal into the elevator shaft, which would resonate, and the mic would bring that back. So some of that is also mixed into the drum sound on Creatures. Clearmountain did a great job, because one of the hallmarks of Clearmountain in those days was he had the unique ability to get more low end onto a record that would translate over the radio. A lot of engineers can put it on a record, but you never hear it on the radio. Bob had a methodology where he could really sculpt that in, in a way that if the record got played on the radio, you could hear that low-end character very clearly.”

Loretta Caravello (Eric’s youngest sister):  “That was his favorite album. I think he said ‘Saint And Sinner’ was his favorite song to play. From what I heard, the drums were recorded in an elevator shaft. And they never were able to duplicate that sound again. They tried and tried, and he tried and tried, but no one has been able to duplicate that sound. It just hit it right. It’s like the weather, when you see the ice on the trees, it has to be perfect and the same, and it never is again. He was very proud of the album.”

Michael James Jackson:  “The feel of the album and the character of the sound was built around Eric’s drums. So I’d have to say his drums certainly played a significant role. But the other thing that I’d say about Eric in relationship to that was since he was the ‘new kid on the block’—even though he’d been with the band for a while—he still was not [a member of] the original band. But Eric had a deep love of KISS and a deep love of KISS’ persona and what the concept of KISS was. So Eric at times was very vocal about wanting to be ensured that KISS was going to be KISS. And that was all about the sound and trying to translate some of that ‘alive-ness’ on disc.”

Bruce Kulick (KISS guitarist 1984-1996):  “There was a time when, for some reason, I was able to stop by the studio when they were doing Creatures, and that was the first time I saw Eric. I love that they were working on ‘I Love It Loud.’ They were checking the mix. You know, the mix at the end when the song fades out and then comes back in. I thought Creatures of the Night was a brilliant KISS album, because it has such a huge Zeppelin-ish/metal sound to it. I was really impressed with that. And I’m sure that was their reaction to The Elder. And there was Eric on the couch. His hair was huge. I only knew of him—that he was the new drummer—but I didn’t know him. So I felt like from his own personal insecurities, he put up a bit of a wall with me. Of which, getting to know him in the latter years, I totally understood. So at the time, I thought that he was kind of ‘guarded,’ and I didn’t get a chance to really say, ‘I really got to experience Eric.’ It was more like, ‘What are you doing here, tall guitar player dude? Invading our space here?’ But I kept it kind of neutral in my mind, what I thought of him. But I will say I was like, ‘Hmm, is he playing the rock star, or is he just uncomfortable meeting people socially?’ And Gene was always all Gene. I don’t even remember how I wound up there, but that was obviously exciting for me. And ‘I Love It Loud’ sounded amazing!”

Michael James Jackson:  “‘I Love It Loud’ is really Gene’s persona. It was very ‘KISS-like’ in the sense that it was very much the persona that Gene puts forward. ‘I Still Love You’ was a big favorite of Paul’s. A lot of time was put into trying to really make that be something. Even ‘Creatures.’ A lot of effort went into trying to make these records be a step above the norm.”

Eddie Trunk (Radio DJ and TV host):  “Getting Creatures, it was eye-opening. It was just monstrous. One of the heaviest albums KISS has ever done, and one of the reasons for it, not only the material, but obviously, the drums. The drums are monstrous-sounding. I never heard drums booming like that on a KISS record before or played like that on a KISS record. It all came together—the material, Eric finally being Eric and getting to be what he signed on to be coming to that band. And KISS being a heavier band than they’d ever been. The irony of all of this, of course, is that you had Ace Frehley out the door.”

Charlie Benante (Anthrax drummer):  “I think Eric was a big Led Zeppelin fan, and he was always into the whole ‘John Bonham thing.’ He played Ludwig, as well. I just think he captured what he wanted to on that record. The drums sound so big and large. If you listen to the fourth side of Alive II, the drum sounds on that record were great. They had some big tones on that record. And I think on Creatures of the Night, they captured that sound as well. It just fit the songs. So I thought that was a great KISS record.”

Mike Portnoy (original Dream Theater drummer):  “Creatures Of The Night is an amazing album. It’s got some great drumming on there. He was a double bass player for starters, which Peter was not. And in the early ‘80s, there were very few double bass players. At that point in the ‘80s, I had only been really listening to ... maybe Mötley Crüe was just coming around, but there were very few double bass guys I was listening to, and Eric was one of them. And that’s one of the things that made his drumming stand out different form Peter’s. And the Creatures album has some great double bass drumming and some real aggressive type of stuff that made the drumming stand out.”

AJ Pero (Twisted Sister drummer):  “Twisted Sister just did a show in France, and I did an interview with the French affiliate for Modern Drummer. I was one of his mentors, and we went through different phases, and Eric Carr’s name was brought up. I said he was a great drummer. Like me, we were really able to show what we were all about. I said one of my favorite albums to this day is Creatures Of The Night. The way the drums sound and the way he played, you can just feel that power coming off it.”

Bill Aucoin (KISS manager 1973-1982):  “(Creatures Of The Night) was a very good album, and I do think Eric was great on it. At that point, he really had learned so much and had experienced so much, that he was coming into his own. He was really becoming a great drummer. I think that’s the reason. He really was a spectacular drummer, and he just got better and better.”

KISS - LATE DRUMMER ERIC CARR'S GIRLFRIEND CARRIE STEVENS PUBLISHES TELL-ALL MEMOIR



http://bravewords.com/news/kiss-late-drummer-eric-carr-s-girlfriend-carrie-stevens-publishes-tell-all-memoir

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Probablement la dernière ou une des dernières photos d'Eric carr avec le groupe, on le voit très fatigué
Juillet 91, pour le clip god gave r'n'roll to you

Pasteur a écrit:

Probablement la dernière ou une des dernières photos d'Eric carr avec le groupe, on le voit très fatigué
Juillet 91, pour le clip god gave r'n'roll to you

27 ou 28 juillet 1991 au Van Nuys Airport, 16461 Sherman Way, Van Nuys, CA durant le tournage du clip.